Go that way and keep going until you see the sign marked none of your fucking business.

Sometimes I’m glad I was a failure. I will never be subjected to this type of success.

If those longshoremen were working directly for ICE, yeah I would not consider them my ally.

If you serve oligarchs instead of making slightly less I hope you get sick and die. Period. I don’t give a shit what class you belong to if you’re helping ICE for a living. You are the one choosing to miss the point of who is your ally and who is not.

By definition they are not the working poor. This isn’t subjective and inflation didn’t erase the upper middle class yet. Besides it’s missing the point to claim that ICE agents are excused from wrongdoing because they’re the working poor so therefore can’t work for someone else. This is no different. They are not the working poor who cannot afford to switch jobs.

They have a choice. They are not trapped in their labor class. They can work for other companies besides Salesforce…they can choose not to support ICE.

IT’S NOT THE WORKING POOR.

What are you taking about? Do you even know what Salesforce is???

Medical help. Other than that, nothing that a local LLM couldn’t do.

Eventually I believe it’s going to result it worse care for the most people, but in the meantime, for some people it will mean early interventions. Maybe cure diseases… What humanity does from there I don’t care to guess because it will probably be worse.

People who earn 200k/year are not the working poor. They are upper middle class or upper class. These things are not subjective, they are well defined.

Salesforce does not employ the working poor. They contract out to subcontractors for all their cleaning and cooking needs… Salesforce employees start at about $150k-$175k for the junior positions.

No. The people who willingly serve them. You are being like this on purpose. Go back to reddit.

I think the promise of AI has them believing this is within reach as soon as they replace us.

It was pruned. It will grow back. It’s growing back now. There will be an Internet post American dominance and it will use open source.

You don’t understand who is not your ally. The people enriching the oligarch class are also not our allies.

For them it’s a choice, not a need. There is a very very large experience and knowledge gap between our perspectives and I’m not going to spend my time bridging backwards while you try to frame Salesforce managers as being trapped in their labor class.

Also worth a mention is Spacebar.chat, formerly fosscord. This is my favorite overall, but sounds almost like it’s in the same spot as Fluxxer as far as where it is in the dev process.

But having used Discord heavily since 2016, I’ve got to say even at the time of pandemic I wouldn’t really have considered Discord itself “feature complete”, and really was it ever?

Open source didn’t crumble under the weight of inevitability. It fell apart because corporate interests profiting off of it decided it was more profitable to create cultures antithetical to the guardrails that open source presents to exploitation and co-option.

Yeah screw all those disabled people who benefit from it. We’ll just group them in with the other counterfactuals you have to ignore to maintain an opinion like yours.

There are more than two classes.

You’re defending Salesforce employees who are enriching the CEO and Trump, and they are working for ICE. These are not jobs they need at this company, They could literally go work for any company out there. This is not a burden placed in them by the class they belong to. Most of these people could take a year off any lose absolutely nothing but a few vacations.

People who earn upwards of $200k/year do not deserve my forgiveness or my empathy for their blight, especially when they are willingly working for people like the CEO of Salesforce.

Framing them as working class is absurd. Just because you have a job doesn’t mean you are working class.

Makes you wonder about Telegram.

Having worked for Salesforce employees I really cringe when you call them the “working class”. Salesforce doesn’t employ cleaners, or people who prepare meals … Their employees are on average incredibly enriched by this man and his association with the administration.

EDIT: Being that this comment is being somewhat brigaded with multiple people claiming that Salesforce employees are “the working poor”… I feel I should give more context:

People who earn 200k/year are not the working poor. They are upper middle class or upper class. These things are not subjective, they are well defined.

Salesforce does not employ the working poor. They contract out to subcontractors for all their cleaning and cooking and labor needs… Salesforce employees start at about $150k-$175k for the junior positions and it goes FAR upwards from there.

People who landed a Salesforce job and hold on to it are not trapped in their labor class. They are culpable for everything their company does. And their CEO.