It is truly amazing that bread, fucking bread, has been one of the hardest things for me to secure vegan options for. You can get bread that doesn’t involve dairy or eggs, but it’s usually the cheap, crappy stuff, and if you have the option of something better, it has one of the two in it. Shouldn’t be an issue for me though. I know a guy who makes bread and we get loaves from him on the regular. I asked recently if he used milk or eggs and he said no, but turns out he was using butter all this time. A bit distressing that I’ve been consuming that ever since I’ve become vegan last year, but nobody asked until now so it’s on me, really. Dude was nice enough to buy vegan margarine for me specifically. Genuinely grateful for that, he’s a sweetheart for it.

deep inhale Why. Does margarine. Have palm oil. I ain’t complaining to him again, he’s been kind and accommodating enough, but I know this shit is awful for the environment and for me too. It’s better then dairy butter but whyyyyy?? I just want oil and salt to put on some basic-ass bread! I literally want a food so basic that comparison to it is a universal stand in for “wow, that’s bland as hell”. It might not be the hardest thing to find a vegan version of (there are also still some toiletries like toothpaste that I haven’t personally checked yet), but does anyone else struggle this much with bread of all things? Does margarine exist without palm oil? I’ve heard of people just drizzling toast with olive oil, so if I add a bit of salt to that will it amount to the same thing? infernal screeching

  • adminofoz@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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    5 days ago

    Learn to make sourdough. It is almost impossible to find real slow made sourdough at stores. Its better tasting and you can make it using ancient grains that are more digestible than modern GMO wheat.

    • cloudskater@pawb.socialOPEnglish
      3·
      5 days ago

      I’ll consider it, but every sourdough I’ve ever had I didn’t like. If it tastes different when homemade though, I’m willing to give it another shot.

      • adminofoz@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        I also do not like store bought sourdough.

        The trick is to check the ones you’ve bought at the store if the ingredients list is longer than flour, water, and salt then its likely somebody playing a marketing trick.

        I can tell you in the US, I have never found real bread at the store other than two artisan bakeries. Several bakeries are just pastries or other sweet treats with a few loaves made using instant yeast and modern wheat.

        This is the recipe I’ve been using lately. It can take awhile being patient enough to get the starter/ levian going and I definitely recommend overnight cold proofing.

        But once I started to eat this, it changed my whole perspective. I can just put some good olive oil on it then it is a filling snack or light meal. Never been able to do that with other breads.

        I now understand how most of the world survived on bread throughout history. They were making and eating real bread and not the gimmick sold by big businesses.