• hector@lemmy.today
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    9 days ago

    The industrialists liked the nazis because they hated the communists and socialists. They weren’t stopped sooner because of it. Hitler got the chancellorship because of it, and the industrialists thinking they could control the nazis.

    No one gives a shit about france’s leadership, or whatever definition of left wing you are using here. The nazis took control in Germany, and they only got that far because the industrialists were scared shitless about all of that seizing the means of production talk.

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      No one gives a shit about france’s leadership, or whatever definition of left wing you are using here.

      The literal Communist and socialist parties of France. Yes, that included the Communist Party aligned with the Soviet fucking Union. “No one gives a shit about France’s leadership” is an extremely curious statement to make when you opened this whole fucking thing with:

      The west did look the other way on the nazis grabbing power because they were taking a hard line against socialism, communism, leftists, unionists, etc.

      But I guess moving goalposts from “The West looked the other way because they liked it!” to “Actually, I was just talking about industrialists IN Germany 🥺” is a lot easier than constructing a coherent argument.

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        The West did give Hitler more leeway because of his attacks on communists and socialists. If you want to revise history you could tell it to Henry Ford’s foundation, maybe they would carry that revisement for you?

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          The West did give Hitler more leeway because of his attacks on communists and socialists.

          I love the part where I point out that one of the largest segments of ‘the West’ was literally led by a Communist-socialist Popular Front, and your only response is to bark your idiocy out again.

          If you want to revise history

          lmao

          you could tell it to Henry Ford’s foundation, maybe they would carry that revisement for you?

          Yes, I’m sure famous antisemite Henry Ford was conducting US foreign policy towards Germany on economic grounds, and whispering in his well-known political ally FDR’s ear to go easy on the Nazis.

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            You don’t seem to understand the history, which tracks, if people understood the history we wouldn’t be in this position, ready to hand absolute power to another strongman because our rich are afraid of moderate reform, just as in the roman republic in it’s latter days, just as in Nazi Germany, and just as now.

            You might laugh at the thought that industrialists opposed communism and socialism and in doing so enabled fascism in the mistaken belief they could control the monster they made.

            Ha ha. I know right, the thought the rich influence western governments, it’s laughable. As if the owners of capital allowed a dictator to take control because they were afraid of communism, it’s incredulous. /s

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              You might laugh at the thought that industrialists opposed communism and socialism and in doing so enabled fascism in the mistaken belief they could control the monster they made.

              But I guess moving goalposts from “The West looked the other way because they liked it!” to “Actually, I was just talking about industrialists IN Germany 🥺” is a lot easier than constructing a coherent argument.