• Zyratoxx@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    36·
    21 hours ago

    Commet is matrix based, can do screenshare (and whether by bug or feature you can atm share multiple screens using one account), looks similar to Discord and doesn’t lock any features behind a premium subscription.

    (tip: change “join voice” permission from “moderator” level to “user” level or make your friends at least moderators in your voice room)

    • paequ2@lemmy.todayEnglish
      11·
      21 hours ago

      They’re interesting. They’re ahead on some features compared to Stoat, like screen sharing. There’s no Fluxer Android app at the moment though. There is a Stoat Android app.

      The Fluxer server seems snappier than the Stoat server, at least for now.

      Federation would be huge if Fluxer ever gets to that.

      There’s also no community search on Fluxer right now. In Stoat, I can browse communities. There’s an Arch Linux server on Stoat!

      • paequ2@lemmy.todayEnglish
        7·
        8 hours ago

        This part of Fluxer makes me a little nervous…

        Finally, we can offer commercial licences to companies that want to run Fluxer internally without being bound by the AGPLv3 copyleft terms. This is enabled via a contributor-friendly CLA, but it doesn’t create a separate “enterprise edition”. It’s still the same Fluxer software everyone else uses.

        So Fluxer will be AGPLv3 until the creator wants to turn up the money faucet? Then, thanks to the CLA, they’ll rugpull and change the license, like everyone else?

    • ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      2·
      16 hours ago

      I’m surprised how close the UI is to Discord.

      Haven’t had the opportunity to try it’s features, but it seems like a promising alternative!

  • recklessengagement@lemmy.worldEnglish
    202·
    22 hours ago

    TeamSpeak does all this, and arguably better at it than discord.

    Downside is the text chat sucks. But if all you want is the voice/video, it’s great.

    • cheesemoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      11 hours ago

      I don’t see anything on the teamspeak website about video calls or screen sharing… Do they have but fail to advertise that functionality? Or am I just missing where they mention it?

      • recklessengagement@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        10 hours ago

        Weird, yeah, looks like they don’t mention it outside of the community forums. They do though, was just using it last night.

        You need TeamSpeak6, aka the “beta” build.

    • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nlEnglish
      7·
      19 hours ago

      How can text chat suck? It’s like one of the most simple things to do and has been done since the 1990’s lol

      • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
        13·
        19 hours ago

        Not even Matrix has figured out text chat that works as well as Discord’s. A Discord server has a sense of place to it. Matrix channels change position based on the most recent message, which damages the ability to create a sense of place.

        • Cyberspark@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          18 hours ago

          An easy ui fix, but misses that they separate the concept of spaces and channels entirely. You can essentially join a server’s text channel without being a member of their server depending on permissions. The UI has ended up created from a user POV rather than being server-based because of this perspective. That being the case I doubt it will change.

          Stopping them moving would still be better though

          • Grail@multiverse.soulism.netEnglish
            21·
            14 hours ago

            And that’s why I can’t use Matrix for what I use Discord for. I run several Discord servers including one that I literally used magic to guide My hand in creating the channel layout, and people in the server can feel the magic in the !air. Which is appropriate, because it’s an occult server. Such magic would never be possible on Matrix.

            So when people say Matrix works as a Discord replacement, I disagree. Members of My coven have felt a pit of nausea in their stomach when they try to engage with Matrix the same way.

            • Cyberspark@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              1·
              3 hours ago

              That’s fair, but I think looking for a one-size fits-all-purposes is guaranteed to fail. Your replacement can be different to mine and that doesn’t make either a bad thing, just represents the various different needs that discord filled.

  • Console_Modder@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    13·
    22 hours ago

    I have been looking into self hosting a Matrix server. Call and stream quality seemed pretty good, however there can only be one person screen sharing at a time. So yeah, unfortunately Matrix won’t work as a discord alternative unless they get an update to allow for multiple people to screen share.

    I remember there was a Discord competitor called Revolt that recently changed their name to Stoat. Haven’t heard much in particular about it, but does any one have any thoughts on Stoat?

    • paequ2@lemmy.todayEnglish
      11·
      22 hours ago

      I just checked, it seems like Stoat doesn’t have screen sharing yet. Also no video yet. Both say “Coming soon!”

      They have text and voice channels available today though.

      does any one have any thoughts on Stoat?

      It’s pretty much a Discord clone. The UI is very similar. Which is good!

      However, right now the biggest hurdle I have is the slow server performance. They’re understaffed and underfunded, the main instance is slow. Maybe it would run great if you self hosted it.

      I recently learned about fluxer.app, which is another clone.

      I just checked and screen sharing seems to be working with them. fluxer.app also has voice and text channels.

      Interestingly, fluxer.app says federation is on the road map… But, realistically who knows when that could be. Fluxer also said they’re purposely not working on federation now because they have a million other things to work on, which is totally fair.

      fluxer.app wants you to pay them starting now. They sell Plutonium, which is like Nitro. Which. Also seems kinda fair. Devs need to eat.

    • shice@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      22 hours ago

      I’ve been trying Stoat for the past few days with friends. It’s really promising and feels a lot like discord. Haven’t had any complaints or issues with the windows app. And once it’s set up calls and servers are pretty easy to get set up. Their android app is pretty buggy though currently, it is advertised as in beta so hopefully that’ll be fixed in the future. We don’t screenshare so I haven’t looked into it but I’ve heard it doesn’t support it

      • Console_Modder@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        20 hours ago

        Element on PC. For mobile Element Classic only supports text chats, and Element X is the experimental app for testing voice and video calls. The PC program and Classic work fine, didn’t test X

        • Zyratoxx@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          9·
          20 hours ago

          I tried Commet a few days ago, not only does it look more Discord like but it allows multiple screenshares (even one user can share so many screens until their PC freezes - as shown in the picture). (The client is alpha but most of the time it worked for me)

    • Victoria@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      4·
      21 hours ago

      I believe Element can do multi-screensharing with MatrixRTC, but you can only view one stream at a time. You can easily switch between active streams though.