AskewLord

plenty of those around if you live in a city. i grew up in a rural/suburban area and even in the 90s there was nothing but chain restaurants apart from some crappy pub or pizza place in the town center.

I’m not the one who looks at apolitical people with contempt dude. Or argues that can’t exist or they are evil or something.

I just think politics is not something everyone is interested in.

Right, so you’re simple mad people don’t behave the way you wish they would?

Lots and lots of black people are apolitical man. 40% of black people who are eligble don’t vote. which is about the same as white people or other ethnic groups. Are those black people who don’t vote evil too? there were black people during civil rights who didn’t support the movement, or who didn’t care. lots of people simple don’t care, and it’s not a matter of privileged so much as is preference.

The world is not as simple or black and white as you seem to wish it would be. You simple think anyone who doesn’t agree with you is wrong and bad and contemptuous. And frankly, why would they want to be political like you then? so they can also hold that attitude towards the non believers?

which kind? corporate ones, or public ones?

games back then were also done by dev teams of like a dozen people or two who did literally everything and you had like 1-2 people on each task. localizing games also took like a year or more from their country of origin.

now they are done by teams of hundreds or thousands, esp once you start adding all the middleware and outsourcing of various parts of the game they do now, and they are released internationally in dozens of markets at once.

it’s lot easier to find bugs in a game that is 1MB than on that is 256GB

The pre-algorithm internet and social media era of about 2000-2014.

I remember when Instagram was just pictures of my friends cats, hikes, and thrift finds. It was great and fun.

so what do you suggest, we fine people for not reading the news?

the issue here you are glossing over is you want to control people. you want to force them to do things they may not want to do. how would you feel if you were forced to say, play sports, or do some other thing you hated?

I was forced to play sports as a kid and it just made me angry and resentful, but it was for ‘my own good’. my folks even went so far as to verbally and physically assault me anytime i suggested I didn’t want to play anymore, and socially not playing sports in my community made you an outcast.

You can’t force people to care about anything, and if you think you must and you can, well, are you sure you aren’t the fascist? are you going to physically abuse in jail people for not reading the news, or voting, or various other forms of political activity you feel they must participate in?

I have read many of MLK’s writings, but even he was very ignorant of what was going on in the world around him. Nobody is perfect, we are all limited beings with limited time and resources. You choose to spend your time and resources on political stuff, that’s fine, but who are you to demand other people do so, let alone that they do so in the same way as you do?

You find it absurd… but I bet other people find aspects of your life equally absurd. Maybe you don’t care about fashion, or sports, or popular tv shows, or cars. or lots of things like that that are very important to other people. I don’t care about fashion and I regularly have gotten lectures from folks about how ‘stupid and ignorant’ i am for not following fashion trends or buying $500 pairs of jeans.

The truth is you just want people around you to reflect the things you care about back at you, and you are angry when they don’t. And that’s how most everyone else is too. I care about obscure 19th century literary works, should I browbeat everyone around me into reading that stuff because I do? Are they stupid and ignorant and ‘sinful’ for not wanting to read Mikhail Lermentov? Or would I be the stupid person for demanding that they do so?

i downvote posts that whine about downvoting.

and in '26 pretty much everything anyone disagrees with is ‘misinformation’. people no longer agree on basic facts of reality anymore.

My experience of reddit wasn’t toxic until '22 or so. The first ten years I used it was mostly chill and fun, with the occasionally dramatic event that I had no personal stake in. I mostly was in my local city subreddit and hobby subreddits and a few reading ones.

But around '22 or so, for me at least, i started getting reported and banned regularly for sexism, racism, and violence. i think because I am not ‘woke’ and the overton window shifted to the point where my views were considered evil or something.

But since I’m an economic progressive and not a social engineering erase gender progressive, I’m a bad person now or something. I also committed the sin of having an outdoor cat and pointing out racial/sexist attacks on my local mayor.

And FWIW this type of crazy has bled over into the real world for me. Extremist rhetoric invaded several activity groups I enjoy IRL. Like, I don’t want to go to a book club and get lectured how I am evil for not buying/ the ‘right’ books, esp when I take most of my books from the library and most of the stuff I read is 100+ years old.

Just want to say I am dealing with this too. I had one guy yesterday reply to 10 separate posts of mine because of one thing I said in one thread they didn’t like. I blocked them, but it is insane behavior.

These replies were no legit either, they were just slinging insults and character assassination and telling me how stupid and evil I was for saying something they disagreed with.

It’s recent for me, this kind of nonsense has only been happening recently. a year ago it never did.

on reddit i got banned.

on lemmy communities I just got told I’m a troll. or to cite my sources. and if I cite them, then I’m a troll. or told how i’m a stupid bad awful evil person who has zero ‘empathy’ if I say, think housing policy is a complex problem.

It couldn’t possible be there are legit points of view and opinions that are different than the predominant one…

true, but let’s be honest most downvotes are just people disliking what you wrote.

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it’s also an outlier position fueled by belief, and people tend to self-select to be around others who believe as they do, and punish those who don’t.

it’s one thing to be concern about privacy, it’s another to browbeat anyone who doesn’t have a pihole server and selfhosts all their media content as being ‘fools’. i don’t use linux other than at my job, and according to lemmy techies I’m a heretic.

apolitical people don’t even know what the status quo is dude. that isn’t supporting it.

but again, if you had empathy enough to think about how an apolitical person would interpret your beliefs about them… you’d not be shocked why they would not want to be political at all. because they often see political people as raging assholes who want to browbeat them for not getting upset about what’s on the news.

I don’t live under them, I create them. I live in a democracy. I’m involved in my political systems. But I am not arrogant enough to think anyone who doesn’t is stupid or wrong or bad.

The vast majority of people do not even know how their government works in my country. How do you expect them to become involved if they lack basic knowledge? I’d rather they just keep out of it.

What is the unit of measure for caring? Is it how many angry and insulting posts I make towards other people on the internet?

So what is worse, being apolitical, or being political such that you support 5 year olds in detention camps?

Asking people to be political, and asking them to be on your side of politics, are two different things.

Your need to browbeat people into being political is more likely to cause them to become political against you, than for you.

And thus you work to defeat yourself. Harassing and calling people names doesn’t bring them to your side.

I regularly come across people who insult others and claim they are superior without actually making an argument or engaging in a meaningful way.

It’s almost like it’s easy to sit in a glass house and scream you are smart than actually going outside and interacting with people.

because it doesn’t offer anyone any really value.

it’s massively inconvenient and expensive compared to non-vr versions.

i worked on a VR program 20 years ago. the same issues persist today as they did back then. it’s still bulky, uncomfortable, annoying, and way too many people get sick from using it for any prolonged period of time. if 50% of your users throw up after 5 minutes, you don’t have a viable product.

it’s only really good for short term novelty experiences. and that’s where it overwhelmingly gets used, always has, and always will.