Got it for you.

The argument before the court was that legally the DNC could select their own candidate, not that it did. So it woudn’t matter if the allegations were true or not.

The other side argued that since the case went to court, the facts of the case must be “true enough to be heard.” Which is a pretty low standard to clear TBH.

“Well we argued it in court, so it must be true enough to be heard.” The standard governing the motion to dismiss requires the Court to accept all well-pled allegations as true for purposes of deciding the motion. Thus, the Court recited the allegations of the Complaint that it was required to accept as true, and in so doing, acknowledged that the allegations were well pled.

Which may technically true, but does not mean that the DNC prevented Bernie from being their candidate.

Did the DNC select their own candidate? Or did they go with the candidate that their voters selected?

Because by the numbers, Bernie was short by a few million votes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

I’m sure that if he had won the primary, then the DNC would have backed him against the wishes of their establishment supporting members, doubly so in light of recent events regarding the NYC mayoral race.

I think the 3 things Tesla has/had going for them was…

1. Car sales growth. The had some pretty ridiculous growth in sales for a few years there.

2. Captive Market. Pretty much everyone I know with a Tesla charges at home, or at a Tesla supercharger. They’ve got the Apple ecosystem lock in for the “fuel” you put in the car. This walled garden approach basically lets Apple print money.

3. Technology. FSD, autopilot, and manufacturing. Tesla presented as a very tech focused company that was dumping money into R&D similar to how Amazon built up in the early 2000s. Investors love companies that are poised to control the entire market in the future.

Pretty much all 3 of these pillars have collapsed now. Their car sales are in a huge global slump. More cars are available that can charge on other charging networks, and those charging networks get bigger and better every day. Elon’s FSD is basically vaporware at this point, and the high degree of automation Tesla was touting in their factories came back to bite them in the ass.

This leads to my favorite recent quote about stocks though… “The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” Let’s face it, Tesla stock is a bubble, AI is a huge bubble. The problem isn’t knowing that there is a bubble, the problem is knowing when that bubble is going to burst.

Yes, Hillary got more votes. Not just delegates, like your cute little chart there shows, but actual individual votes. Amongst DNC primary voters, she was the more popular candidate.

I need you to go back, and get the primary results from the 2016 DNC primary and post them here.

To me, it’s like GMOs.

I trust the science behind GMOs. They work, and we can do amazing things with that technology.

I don’t trust the profit seeking corporations that are selling the stuff to me. Doesn’t matter what the technology is, Monsanto is gonna do Monstanto shit.

It’s really amazing that out of the many people who want to talk about how Bernie should have won the 2016 primary, none of them are willing to post the results, where he lost by a significant number of votes.

It’s almost like they think the less popular candidate should have been democratically selected.

Show me an election where the less popular candidate won, and I’ll agree with you that it’s totally bullshit, and the system was rigged, and needs to be reworked.

I’m always open to discuss further, but you will need to confirm that you know the results of the 2016 DNC primary.

It’s not a double check at the polling station. They simply need to confirm that you showed up and voted today, and have a way to ID you. The actual check, that you are legally allowed to vote, and that you are actually who you say you are, and that you aren’t allowed to vote anywhere else, all happened when you register to vote. That is a long process, and that’s why it is done before you actually need to go vote.

Every difficulty you build to try to make harder for your enemy voters to cast their vote is a difficulty you set up also for your voters.

Elections are run by the individual states (unless something egregiously unconstitutional is going on) which allows the governor and even local election officials to make decisions that affect how hard it is to vote almost down to a street level basis. If you don’t want people from blue areas to vote, you just put in fewer polling stations, and make them in less convenient places for areas that skew blue on the map. So adding 30 seconds to the voting time doesn’t really matter for a rural station that might need to service 100 people in a day, but for an inner city location that might need to service 100 people a minute those 30 seconds per person really add up.

Alright, you pretty much posted the same argument I was expecting from the other two, but just taking a little detour through the possibility that you thought the votes were altered.

Before I consider this complaint, I need you to go back, and get the primary results from the 2016 DNC primary and post them here.

I need to know that you know before we can discuss further.

Anyone who expects a system based on collaboration and conpromise to bend 100% to their will was a fucking miserable entitled jackass to play with as kids.

Are you saying that Bernie got more votes in the primary than Hillary, and the DNC manipulated the votes to make Hillary win?

Same thing applies to you.

Before I consider this complaint, I need you to go back, and get the primary results from the 2016 DNC primary and post them here.

Before I consider this complaint, I need you to go back, and get the primary results from the 2016 DNC primary and post them here.

I know what the results are, but I need to know that you know before we discuss further.

The dumber the dog, the more repetitions it takes to teach it.

I don’t think they’re all trolls. I think there are a few right-wing trolls who got stupid people to buy into their astroturf campaign and then it took off from there. IIRC, one of the people in Mi openly admitted that he was a Republican and saw it was an easy wedge issue to get people not to vote.

Wanna know how to pressure the DNC to pick a candidate you like? Go fucking vote for them in the primary!

Typically, the primaries get 1/10th the turnout of the general election. That means that a very small number of people can sway the primary. Go stump for your candidate. Make phone calls, talk to your family and friends and community, explain why your candidate is the better choice.

The lack of a primary in 2024 was fucking awful, but guess what? Chances are, there is a primary going on for your state right now, get to work!

Someone has to pay for the new SSN system. Someone has to pay to maintain the database for the old system, since a lot of stuff is still reliant on those “old” numbers and will be for some time. Someone has to pay for printing and distributing new cards to everyone. Someone has to pay for gov employees to check IDs and verify people before distribution. Someone is going to have to pay for errors in the deployment. Someone is going to have to pay for the damage done by identity theft.

I would bet that someone will not be Elon, or anyone else at DOGE.

The check in the US is done when you register to vote. Once you are registered, a variety of proofs of ID can be used to vote at your polling location.

Requiring a passport and birth cert or some other strong ID are unnecessary at the actual voting site. The main reason for doing this is to make voting take longer, and be more strenuous, which means that you can have a greater effect on election results by manipulating the number of polling stations for an area.

Yeah, thanks for that Equifax.

https://youtu.be/lfsMMVgIToA