I suppose the biggest question I have is how to square the circle of people who would never themselves knowingly violate a child (or anyone, really) but still not realize the gravity of a situation like this and side with a child rapist for even a second (such as myself, I’m sure there are others.) Would you - as a victim yourself - be inclined to have them preemptively put on a list just in case? And, considering that they’re not so far gone as to need “why pedophilia is bad 101” lessons, how exactly would you go about reforming them, or see them fucking change?

(This is intended as a good faith question, please don’t kill me)

my main concern here is that they felt inclined to sympathize in the first place, rather than how it looks to outsiders

Of course, I just felt it necessary to point out that this could make the entire site look bad (to pressure the mods into not implementing any more half measures.)

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If the context was any less severe, I wouldn’t have voiced that possibility.

I can’t shake the feeling OP is lying about all of it

I personally can’t shake the feeling the post was a trap set by reactionaries looking for even just one of us to take the bait so they can get proof that communists and non-binary (read: trans) folk are actually okay with child rape.

the OP of that thread shouldn’t have been shown sympathy, they should have been shown the fucking wall.

Let it be known that although I was among the people who initially showed sympathy for the offender, I am rather disappointed in Carcosa’s half-measure of just banning u/GorbinOutOverHere and “keeping an eye on” the rest. Especially in a case like this where 1) the action was morally and legally an absolute atrocity and 2) the site’s reputation as a whole could be ruined by one post about this elsewhere on Lemmy or Reddit, not to mention the potential for unwanted eyes from the feds. Given your status on the site, I would request that you lobby for fully upholding TC69 Thought.

This is just the National Progressive Pact with extra steps

I’m writing myself in

Have you read about the yards of linen?

I can now say I’m fluent in Welsh

“Women, am I right?”.

-Chairman Mao Zedong, 1969

Thank you for your service

I feel like we can kinda snake by without any bans here

I would hope so, but in a case as grave as this, I would definitely advocate for an arguably overzealous show of force from the mods.

We need to be vigilant about this type of stuff in the future. Get a consensus plan documented ITT and use it going forward.

Yeah; that’s partly why I tagged the mods. In fact, when I saw where the original thread was going, I actually reported it as something that should be shut down ASAP before any sitewide damage could be done.

Not sure the mods are around right now, I’d have expected them to be here by now.

If only you were with u/theghostofwhoiwas as he was entering that kink space for the first time…

are people expected to ask sex partners to see their IDs because I’ve literally never

That was my thinking, like the most socially acceptable way to handle that would probably be to discuss the so-called upcoming 19th birthday and poke for inconsistencies.

Either the kid jumped through all the hoops including fake ID and shit, or the moderators of the kink community really need to up their own due diligence. Probably both.

I think we might need to examine the rules of /c/mentalhealth and maybe the site as a whole in regards to talking about questionably illegal or fully illegal activities

No shit, especially when it comes to egregious stuff like that.

might even attract undue law enforcement/fed eyes on hexbear in the near future

That’s why I’m advocating for an extremely harsh response, even at my own expense. (Including bringing up the possibility of turning ourselves in.) Also, our enemies elsewhere on Lemmy and on Reddit would love to know about this incident and use it to smear not only Hexbear but also communism as a whole and the non-binary (read: trans) community. Given that the original post is still up after 24 hours, I wouldn’t be surprised if some has already detected blood in the water.

The point was made that OP should have confirmed the kid’s identity before starting anything, especially given the age difference that was presented (i.e. even a “19-year-old” looking into a 31-year-old is… weird.) Also, OP gravitating towards the youngest member is a bit sus no matter how you look at it.

And in fact, my original opinion was that the kid shouldn’t have lied and misled OP, and that OP’s character was solid enough because they claimed to feel extremely icky and guilty once they learned the truth. In a case involving sex with a minor, however, that isn’t enough.

We are not immune to propaganda sob stories from a sex pest

Tagging site mods so they can decide how to proceed: @liberal@hexbear.net @WhyEssEff@hexbear.net @RNAi@hexbear.net @Wmill@hexbear.net @CARCOSA@hexbear.net @TomboyShulk@hexbear.net @DuckNuckem@hexbear.net @SapGreen@hexbear.net @Zangief@hexbear.net @all_that_is_solid@hexbear.net @KenBonesWildRide@hexbear.net @KiraNerys@hexbear.net @scumlord@hexbear.net @COMMENT@hexbear.net @Antisocial_Socialist@hexbear.net @DOPESMOKERDENG@hexbear.net @BoarAvoir@hexbear.net @corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net @Nakoichi@hexbear.net @itsPina@hexbear.net

Also @BeamBrain@hexbear.net, despite not being a mod, you were there, so I would appreciate your own input as well.

EDIT: I’ve compiled a list of users who did not condemn the rapist. They are u/dismal, u/dialectical_analysis_of_gock, u/FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee, u/retrieval4558@mander.xyz, u/millistanaccount09, and u/ComradeCmdrPiggy (myself.) The OP is u/theghostofwhoiwas, the actual poster behind the alt is unknown. u/GorbinOutOverHere seems to be showing their ass in this thread, as well.

ATHENA! APOLLO! WHERE’S THE FUCKING AMMO?

Is this “Pokémon Go to the polls”?