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  • I don’t exactly disagree, but I suspect humans were domesticating plants and animals well before capitalism was a thing. Domesticated dogs for example are rather dependent on us and wouldn’t survive well in the wild. Yes “property” and “ownership” are loaded terms but I think there can be some similar underlying truth in regards to our relationship with other things.

    In some ways that can extend to nonliving objects or entities. If you create a piece of earthenware from nothing but clay and fire and your own hands, you own it and it’s your property in a sense unrelated to capitalism. As in, you would not be happy if someone stole it or broke it or used it to commit a crime, and you would inherently consider your relationship to that object in your daily treatment of it and your reaction to those events.

    And I’d say some of those aspects would extend to an AI or agent. Of course virtually all of the LLMs and other AI/ML models (to my knowledge) have been created within in a capitalistic society so as you point out they have all the additional baggage that comes with that. I’m just saying that’s not 100% of their attributes. The way you treat something should also respect the labor and materials that went into it.

    And that’s actually a problem with many of these LLMs that were trained on the creative works of others, but that’s crossing into a whole other topic…











  • Right, but I’m saying those votes didn’t just come out of thin air. The GOP has been tipping the scales to give themselves more and more power for decades, to where it’s now evident they basically own all major US media. They seized control of the senate and representative seats that let them funnel more and more bribes, buy out the media, and control the narrative. Eventually that led to presidential wins.

    The average person just wants to get by. They vote for whever convinces them it’ll be less painful, or convinces them that the pain (e.g. restrictions on freedom, austerity, destroying diversity) will somehow be worthwhile.

    EDIT: Late fix to a wrong autocompleted word.