I just want him to clarify that out loud…

Ask him to define ‘fair’ ahead of time. The man has no idea what the word means

Fighting among ourselves? You started it… ;-) I tried to debate you on facts and opinions. You made it personal in the response. Good one.

And yes, I do have a job. I work for a nonprofit-profit as a Software engineer. But you can guarantee I go “above and beyond”…? You don’t know me at all…

I love replies from people that seemingly only read the first line… Do you think your idea is so perfect it cannot be debated? Your ad-hominem response suggests so, and that makes you just as much of a snowflake as the rest of the red-hatted MAGA twats that are supporting this kind of shit.

I know you also probably didn’t read this far, but I’ll deal with points you raise anyway.

I don’t know to what “day” you are referring that people held their employers accountable…? Are you suggesting that thousands of Microsoft Engineers, Designers and Admin should leave the company because one of their shareholders is named in the Epstein files? Sure, there have always been those brave enough to stand against the masses and criticize. There always will be, but they are the minority and it’s a lot less common than you think.

And if you think you are one of those, go ahead: Spur on the masses to greater change. But “ditching microsoft products” isn’t going to change anything unless everyone does it and good luck with that.

Major social change is required. If you want to focus your anger on anyone, focus it on the Pedo in Chief.

I disagree.

Sure, stop buying Microsoft products because they’re shit. But beyond that? If revenues drop, they’ll fire half of the staff before they fire Gates. Besides, if they do fire him, what’s he gonna do? Buy a private island probably. Put another way, this would hurt average, working people far more than Gates.

I guess Microsoft are partly to blame. It’s not a good look is it? But, he’s also not be tried or found guilty so they’re not entirely at fault.

Instead focus your anger: Get out there and ask why he’s not been investigated? Why the people in power are seemingly closing ranks around this - are they all guilty? Vote for a progressive viewpoint that favors holding the ultra-rich accountable in all ways - legally, financially and morally

I get that you’re angry. What these people are accused of doing is truly evil. But take that anger and use it for something with consequence.

He’s doing an autobiographical lecture…?

This is pure desperation. There’s literally no description of the use case this product will solve for people. I wouldn’t need this if it were free

Isn’t a cornucopia from Greek myth? That would mean that literally nothing, apart for the wheat and the nuts should be in that picture…

Or just atlantically

I try not to comment on people’s appearances, but why the hell is Michael Dell pictured with Pennywise the Clown in a dress?

If that’s the case, renounce your title already…

There is a difference, of course - One is a proponent of Socialism that benefits society as a whole. One is a proponent of socialism that benefits businesses.

I’ll leave you to decide which is which

The FBI probably need to go take another look in his bathroom. I’ll be there’s a few less boxes in evidence than there used to be

I agree with much of what you say, but the idea that this isn’t “gods” earth any more I find risible. Much of this was done in via religion which is a man-made system to capitalize on insecurity and fear.

I’m curious what you mean about “not participating in this fucked up world” and “sacrificing the privileges and comfort of the modern life”. For me, these are highly ambiguous phrases.

The problem is not a modern/permissive/whatever society but the inability of those on the right wing to tolerate anyone who is different and, as we are now finding out, to attempt to erase them. Love is the answer, and I tend to agree this is not compatible with current politics.

Everyone is focusing on the sex-act, but what about the Putin /photos part? This suggests strongly that Putin does have Kompromat on Trump, which is long suspected.

This isn’t digression - it’s pretty accurate to how I feel… Passion is the missing ingredient

I don’t disagree there are talented youth out there. I have another team member who is the equal of any of my best hires. He’s self motivated, and that is the difference I think.

That is partly true; our company should do more especially when it comes to hiring and screening. But you can also only mentor those who wish to be mentored…

I’ve also been in this industry now for over 25 years and I have mentored a lot of junior developers. I feel I have gotten a little better at mentoring, but I do genuinely believe that general skills of graduates have also decreased. I think it may be generational. Devs from a decade or two ago had to find a lot of things out for themselves.

And Yes, I know I sound like an old asshole, but honestly, I think today CS is treated more like a trade than a skill. I wish it were otherwise.

I work at a large company that is not considered one of the tech bros. I doubt we’re hiring graduates ever again.

For the record, we’re NOT all in on AI - far from it - but what we have found is that 98% of graduate hires aren’t productive and over-estimate their skills.

Maybe it’s different elsewhere in the world, but in and around Toronto, we’ve found that most CS grads have gone into the field because they think it will pay well. Most have no “adjacent” skills, such as VCS understanding, PRs, how work is broken down etc, but the biggest red flag though is just how few of them are interested in expanding their horizons. I currently have one junior right now working on an Android app and he seems incapable of moving past the MVP, java based patterns they learned in college.

The way I see it, Colleges are doing a very poor job right now, and the students are paying the price.

Holy shit. That’s almost one Elon Musk’s Salary dollars