@p03locke I understand your outburst, and personally, I think it’s quite well-founded. However, I remind you that the problem lies in the fact that Mastodon has chosen to implement proprietary solutions that don’t follow the Activitypub standard, and that almost the entire Fediverse wants to conform to this supposed de facto standard. The fact that Lemmy adopts solutions that are different from other software, but still more in line with Activitypub, shouldn’t be considered a problem.

@p03locke interoperability makes all software equal; those that aren’t, are each equal in their own way… 😅
Jokes aside, Mastodon is the elephant in the room of interoperability in the Fediverse.

@Phantaloons The idea would be very interesting. Could you explain it better? In fact, at first glance, it would seem simpler to run Orbot directly before launching the application.
Perhaps rather than adding Orbot to the application, it would be better to create a RaccoOnion fork 😅

@OpenStars

I am not sure that you would get this unless I add your user tag @macfranc ?

Yes, I’d still get it, even if you didn’t mention me. The problem arises when you reply to someone who replied to me: in that case, I might not receive the notification. Unfortunately (as often happens), the fault lies with Mastodon, not Lemmy/Piefed.

It is not your fault. The entire Fediverse is still being built, and it only gets better over time.:-) The fact that Lemmy + PieFed + mBin + nodeBB can intercommunicate at all is fantastic, even though yes there are some kinks remaining to be worked out:-).

I also believe this statement. Since I’ve been an instance administrator (Friendica, Lemmy, NodeBB, and Mastodon Glitch-soc), I’ve always been concerned with how the Fediverse software integrates with each other and with spreading knowledge of the various platforms

My intention was to make light of the reasoning behind criticism of your post, while pointing out to Threadiverse users that once you get past that, the actual content is quite solid. So less “wall of text” than merely “odd-looking introduction”. It’s a good post!

Thank you for your feedback. It’s somewhere between a press release and an informational post about the Fediverse. I’m only surprised because, usually, the criticisms about length come from Mastodon users, not Lemmy users…

And yeah the giant text looks weird, haha! 😂

Usually, the problem is solved at the user interface level. BBCode and Markdown have a certain number of standard levels for titles, and it’s up to the final interpreter (the interface) to manage their display based on the tool (desktop browser, mobile browser, mobile app, etc.).

Especially since at first it is a repeat of the title, but then goes into new territory after that. I do not know if there is anything that can be done about it though, except further code development on the side of all the myriad varieties of recipients of the message.

Repeating the title, on the other hand, is the best possible solution for integrating threads opened in the forumverse by microblogging users: Lemmy takes the first 200 characters of the first paragraph and converts them into a title, disabling formatting, links, and mentions. That data, however, is re-proposed at the beginning of the post text.
I understand there are some issues, but I don’t see any better solution than this.

I should add that, unfortunately, Mastodon’s recent implementation of quoted posts has made it difficult for Lemmy to manage opening posts, because Mastodon formats posts that quote another post as:

Re: fedilinkhttpsPost text

And therefore, the title of a Lemmy thread would become
"Re: fedilinkhttps" 🤬

@cannedtuna

New account, was an hour old at the time I wrote the above, first thing they do is hop to this post to comment about downloading it.

…and as I explained here, it wasn’t a “new” account, but rather one that was “intercepted” by Lemmy.world only when he replied to my post.

@cannedtuna Can you explain better what you mean? Which accounts have been active for an hour?

@OpenStars I’m both disappointed and amused by this inconvenience.

Unfortunate, because my intention was to highlight the app’s qualities, not to annoy as many readers as possible.

But I’m also amused, because unfortunately, many Lemmy apps format titles poorly, transforming #/h1 tags into something like “format a gigantic title that takes up one screen for each syllable.” 🤦‍♂️🤣

@ggtdbz

@fizzle Given that machine translation systems have nothing to do with LLMs, I see you understand perfectly well that it’s perfectly fine not to know English, just as it’s perfectly fine to use machine translation systems.

However, I can’t be concerned about those who manage to turn what should be a legitimate and justified concern about the proliferation of AI-generated texts into a complete obsession.

@givesomefucks

@givesomefucks I’m sorry, but you’re making serious and false claims that do not honor either your reputation or your ability to recognize the synthetic origin of a text or code.

I wrote the post in Italian and first translated it into English (a language I don’t know) using a machine translation system. I then did a back translation to make sure everything was at least comprehensible.

Regarding the app, if you had the necessary knowledge, you could take a look at the code to understand that the development wasn’t done with vibe coding, but was done over the course of almost two years, integrating observations and addressing issues.

@tio Your instance is one of those shortlisted by Raccoon both because it’s very well moderated and because it has a local timeline accessible even without logging in.
I’m glad you’ll recommend this app to your contacts. In that regard, although none of us are in love with Google (🤬), we must admit that the presence of the 1.0 release on the Play Store is essential to overcome the psychological barrier of all those users who do not want to go to alternative stores or download the .apk package.

@pfefferle @jerry @informapirata @notizie @alex @fediverse @janTeko @ruud

@OpenStars In the past we had gotten into the habit of calling the set of thread-based environments #threadverse, but the advent of the terrible Meta service has polluted this denomination.

Personally I would use the expression #topicverse

@fediverse

@gon

You’re deep into the Fediverse!

Yes… 😅 “E il naufragar m’è dolce in questo mare… 🤣”

Flohmarkt is an interesting concept, I’ve heard of it before, but I don’t know much about.

at the moment it is very little: it is almost touching for how basic it is in its functions! it even lacks the RSS feed which is a constant for almost all the software of the Fediverse… 😅

However I am convinced that it could have a very interesting development in the medium and long term

@Pamasich @gon

Kbin’s dev didn’t really trust people much, so he wanted to have sole control over what code gets added to kbin

The developer of Kbin is an absolute genius and Kbin was one of the most beautiful and original things ever done in the Fediverse, with a hybridization between microblogging and threadiverse like never seen before. It’s a real shame that he ended support for Kbin, but I think he got burned out…

I think the biggest difference is really the fact that you can subscribe to not just communities but also users

This is an added value, but it was also a critical aspect. The fact of having allowed to follow users and not only communities (magazines) has determined a significant slowdown of the server.

Furthermore, this great added value of joining microblogging to threadiverse, does not make the interface very easy to read. This was taken sic et simpliciter from Mbin, without further developments. Perhaps, if the original developer had remained active, he could have taken the responsibility of making some sensible changes to the Knin interface…

@gon

What Fediverse services do you actually, regularly use?

I am an instance administrator for three Friendica instances, Mastodon glitch-soc and Lemmy. I am also a moderator for three large Mastodon instances, Pixelfed and Flohmarkt…

Putting the software I use the most in the first place, I would say I use:

1. Mastodon, that is my historical account @informapirata (Mastodon is really immediate) and Friendica (the most complete experience even if less ergonomic)
2. Mastodon glitch-soc (immediate like Mastodon, but with formatting)
3. Lemmy (fast and with the best layout in the fediverse)
4. Peertube
5. Pixelfed, Mbin, Pleroma, Misskey, Piefed, Bonfire etc that I use mostly for testing
6. Flohmarkt that I started using only a few weeks ago