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  • I’ve said something along these lines before but that was when I was much newer to socialism.

    Now I’d say that if a community owned the means of clothes production that is not capitalism. If they give/sell them that also does not have to be capitalistic as long as the goal is not using commodities to make money for money’s sake.

    If you take that money and put it towards building other commodities thats also fine, any most political systems need a way to make new things. Marx called this C-M-C where you sell a commodity ©, transform it into money (M) and then use that money to get a new commodity ©. This makes sense because a commodity is only as valuable as you can use it, it’s use-value BUT if the end goal is money. Then it becomes a M-C relationship. Now the goal is money. Money is spent to buy stuff for the sole purpose of making money, there is no desire to use it only to extract the markup costs

    Lastly the people working there must own it. If a state-like figure owns it and makes the decisions in a heavy top-down fashion and profit is not openly shared then I think that is just state capitalism.







  • I agree that the liberals love manufacturing consent, I agree that Kamala and the Biden administration would still be using ICE deportations like they were under Obama, and I mostly agree the democrats don’t care about their voters and are bad people who want to maintain the status quo.

    That being said I still think there is a material difference. Besides Trumps deportation and ICE policies, if literally every other policy decision between Kalama and Trump is the exact same I think there is still a material difference. The difference being Trump is using ICE more aggressively, capturing more people, and being more harmful. He has either stopped or severely limited the number of immigrants in the US. Trump is also using no badge and masked ICE to grab people off the streets. I do not believe Kamala would have done this and that is the material difference I see. Now if you wanted to argue that the small difference doesn’t matter, or that having a passive system is worse because it keeps more liberals ignorant longer and perpetuates the system longer thats a different discussion. (Not trying to put arguments in your mouth I just think this would be a related, but different topic)


  • macro_byte@programming.devtoMemes@lemmy.mlDonmala Trarris
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    10 months ago

    They are saying because Kamala did not want mass ICE deportations that we wouldn’t be having mass ICE deportations in LA.

    Even if you believe Kamala and Trump share the beliefs/end goals/policies whatever, there is at least one distinction and that is she did not want mass ICE immigration. Therefore, she is LESS harmful.