• Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    16
    ·
    6 days ago

    Christ I see shit like this and then think back to the constant whining “why are younger generations leaving Iowa”?!

    Because you do boomer things like this! Kids want to have e bikes, and rather than thinking “how can evokes move more safely on our streets” they instead go “we should punish ebike users for trying to use our car-centric infrastructure”.

  • Wahots@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    4 days ago

    You will drive and you will like it! Sounds like it basically kills off biking and scooters in its entirety.

  • hallettj@leminal.space
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    5 days ago

    Some serious problems with that bill! But looking specifically at the restrictions on Class 3 - where I live, California, Class 3 e-bikes are already banned from multi-use trails. I don’t think that’s a bad idea. 28 mph is awfully fast for places where one could easily hit a pedestrian. Pedestrians have been killed in collisions. Some of those were confirmed to be illegal e-motos, and I’d guess that most of the unconfirmed cases are too. But at least one case looks like it may have involved a Velotric Go 1 with an unlocked speed of 25 mph.

    Impact energy increases with the square of speed (KE = ½mv²), so Class 3 is 40% faster than Class 1, but carries nearly double the kinetic energy (1.96x) for the same mass.

    I’m inclined to agree with the take from Berm Peak: no restrictions on riding Class 1 e-bikes, but treat bikes with throttles, higher speeds, and more powerful motors with more scrutiny. That way there is one thing called an e-bike, and it’s much easier for everyone to understand. Fewer deadly accidents means reduced threat of sledgehammer legislation. We could still have start assist - some states, including California, explicitly allow start assist on Class 1.

    Edit: Linkified the Berm Peak reference

    • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksOPM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      4 days ago

      I think banning bicycles is kind of stupid but I am fine with speed limits because you can get a regular bicycle up to 28mph without too much trouble: Take your class 3 on a mixed use path, just keep it under 20 or 15 or whatever the speed limit is. If it’s straight up not a bicycle though, that I am fine with banning.