• Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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    5 hours ago

    We should eliminate immigration because the country is full. Also, we should be having more babies because the country is not full enough. - Pants on head party

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    A Reform spokesperson said Goodwin’s remarks are party policy, claiming that this was Labour being “disingenuous once again”.

    WTF?

    He added: “This is an idea that was first suggested by the respected demographer Paul Moreland as part of a range of measures that should be debated and discussed across developed nations if we are serious about dealing with our looming demography crisis.

    So, there is “looming demography crisis” but you want to limit net migration, yes?

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    As a brown woman, I somehow think he would be glad that I’m not breeding. I wonder if he would make minorities exempt. What a disgusting human.

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      Farage is a racist but first and foremost he’s a con man. I honestly don’t think he would care if you were or weren’t because it doesn’t give him money, nor take it away. The man wants wealth and power off the back of the British people and if being racist gets it for him, so be it. He’ll be whatever he needs to be to get publicity and get rich. He’s like the political version of a (racist) Britain’s Got Talent contestant.

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        Oh I know, but a lot of his acolytes are fueled by racism. The article isn’t about farridge, but one of his candidates, who probably is racist.

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          That’s very true. The bigger it gets the more the lines blur between who is racist for personal gain and who is racist because they’d full of hate. Eventually the latter takes over everything if the movement grows.

          Luckily I believe there are many more good and decent hard working people who would do much to stop Reform from ever getting near power than there are people who would support them. I just hope it’s true.

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              I understand why you wouldn’t.

              An important distinction for me is to believe what you see in the real world vs online.

              Online you will see posts with thousands and millions of likes spouting racist, hateful material and it appears as if that is the prevailing opinion. It isn’t. Social media is wide open to manipulation. Many of these likes will come from accounts in Russia, America, Nigeria and even India. It’s a mass manipulation tool.

              If you watch the BBC Question Time special on Immigration that is far more representative of the UK. An audience selected to best represent how the UK is polling at the moment.

              On that show you will see Reform broadcasting their usual hate messaging around immigration. You will also see good people stand up to them and say they are wrong. You will see all the other politicians on that show condemn Reform as well as the majority of the audience.

              I really suggest watching it. The BBC, for all it’s faults, has integrity. That immigration special, filmed around Christmas 2025, really gave me hope that we can stop Reform and that they are not an inevitability. Far from it. We can stop them if we all work together and I believe politicians as well as people will!

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                I can’t underestimate the power that social media propaganda has. My ex and another colleague would parrot everything they heard on Facebook and Joe Rogan. My ex even once described fascism as “the best form of government”. And I can only assume he was mindlessly repeating something he saw online with no understanding. He would often parrot the “mozlums are trying to force sharia law on the UK” line, not just to attack me personally, but because he probably believed it, despite living in London where he comes across loads of Muslims and yet he could not produce one real life example. He would also unironically praise and defend yaxley Lennon and farridge. Despite knowing that I would not be safe in a room with either of them. That wasn’t enough to stop him admiring them.

                (And yes I stuck around because I was already fully locked into codependency by the time the mask came off. I’m physically free from him now, but still an emotional prisoner. But I’m working on it.)

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                  Ah. Sorry to hear about your Ex. Sounds like he was in the hole, so to speak. Probably for the best that he is now your Ex! At least you were not persuaded by his opinions out of love and stayed true to your beliefs. It’s staggering that he couldn’t see the contradiction between believing Facism to be the best form of government and having a woman of race as a lover. Many such people often live in denial of the facts to suit their beliefs though, as I’m sure you experienced. Anyway, you can do better!

                  I find it staggering that people are willing to hold those beliefs about Muslims despite the obvious lack of evidence for such ideas. It’s fear propaganda, pure and simple.

                  As you are a Muslim woman, of which I sadly know none, may I ask you a question?

                  I would be curious to hear about your personal experiences with the general public in terms of interactions and people’s behaviour. Excluding your ex of course, I don’t want you to relive personally painful memories. I just mean how do you normally find people that aren’t Muslim treat you in society? Has it got better or worse, or the same over the last 5 years? And do you think it sould be diffrrent if you were not a Muslim? Also do you have connection to a large Muslim community? Would be curious to hear what their reaction has been to all this atrocious hate material.

                  It sounded like you don’t have much faith in the public attitude, and I’m sorry for that. I will always try and persuade anyone though that there are many good people who are proud of how tolerant and open British society is and are angry these luddites are tarnishing our reputation.

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    If you phrase it as a punitive tax on the childless, it sounds outrageous. However, if you increase general taxes and give tax breaks to parents with children, people are more accepting.