Came across this picture which was causing an intense amount of debate and lowkey oneupsmanship by people on the prowl to show of their expertise in all things military who were also completely out of the loop on the gear they were talking about.

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    13 days ago

    Is it normal or expected to just let the magazine drop to the ground like that?

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      It’s situational. If you’re not in immediate danger, you’ll take the time to retain the mag properly. But if you’re reloading in the middle of combat, fuck that piece of plastic, let it drop. It’s not worth more than your life. You can pick it up off the ground later when you’re not dead.

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        It also depends on whether the mag is still loaded. That last round could be the one to save your life, so it’s usually better to retain mags that have any amount of ammo.

        But this is a staged photo, so it doesn’t really matter in this case

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          Generally speaking you’re not dropping a partially full mag under fire. You put those bullets down range, then you drop the mag for a fresh one when it’s empty.

          The only time you swap partials is if the shooting is over, at least temporarily. At that point everyone switches out to a fresh mag, and yes, retains the partial, because you’re not doing a combat reload at that point (this is also when you check yourself and each other for injuries).

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            The only time you swap partials is if the shooting is over

            You’re forgetting another scenario: when you’re behind cover.

            Also, I never specified whether the person is under fire

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              You’re forgetting another scenario: when you’re behind cover.

              That would fall under “When you’re not in immediate danger.” And again, that’s not a scenario where you’re going to drop the mag. You can freely retain it for later. That’s what it comes down to; if you’ve got time to retain the mag, you retain the mag. If you’re in a situation where retaining the mag would cost time you don’t have, you are de facto also in a situation where you’re not swapping a partial.

              Also, I never specified whether the person is under fire

              No, but you replied to a comment where I did.

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      It’s fine. Some people seemingly attempt to fling them into orbit with the Wick Flick and they still survive.

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        13 days ago

        Did you just point out the existence of gravity to donkey brain up there?

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          12 days ago

          I personally have very little of an idea how rifles work, I didn’t know there was such a thing as a release button. You can surely imagine how for us ignoramuses the visible buoyancy of this rifle magazine can cause some confusion.

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      It’s falling. The photo was taken at the moment he released it. That’s pretty common standard drill to drop the mag if you’re reloading under fire. You can grab it off the ground later if you’re still alive.

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    I really hope this isn’t AI because it looks really convincing, apart from the stock, wich looks weird and seems floating infront of the shoulder not pressed against and the iron sight still mounted on the barrel. You wouldn’t have it there if the other at the receiver is removed and es especially when it blocks the scope

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      You’ve never seen an optic mounted on an M4 that still has the front sight block in place?

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        i did, it was that all in all it gave a weird vibe and maybe i’m overexposed to AI images that i suspect them at every corner

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        I think the laser designator being blocked by the front sight post and the heavy-ass optic only being held on by a single picatinny slot are bigger problems

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            Dude, I’m checked out of this thread already. OP only made this post to parade around like a know-it-all douche and I’m not on board for giving them any more attention at this point.

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              10 days ago

              Have you ever met hardcore train enthusiasts, i.e. the I am unhealthily obsessed with trains types?

              That is what this community is, but “defense” themed and far more unhinged … just look at this place’s banner.

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              This thread was made in good fun, as I had run across this picture being wildly misinterpreted by a bunch of people. I thought it would be fun to share under the assumption people subscribed to NCD for the most part would understand what’s happening.

              My question is why it made you so mad that you decided to go on a downvote spree on a bunch of unrelated posts and comments of mine? Not like this place has account karma or anything, but it just seems like a strange reaction.

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      A) That’s your gas block, without it you have a bolt action.

      B) That’s what the pic riser is for.

      C) yes you could replace the FSB with a modern gas block, but the barrel has been drilled for the FSB and I’d recommend changing the barrel too if you’re gonna do all that, and you’d wanna swap to a free float since the FSB also is part of what retains clamshells, so might as well throw the scope on a riser and call it a day. Might even be 1/3rd co-witness actually.

      I see nothing wrong with this setup, personally.

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      It’s on a LaRue riser which has an arm that sticks forward. The LPVO’s mount is fully secured to it. In the original discussion a seemingly infinite amount of Boomers didn’t know this and without doing even a second of research or thought began to confidently post about how stupid it was to mount an optic hanging halfway off a riser.

      For history, here’s Delta using the exact same riser:

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      He’s put it on a riser block, presumably to get it clear of the front post, which he’s chosen to leave on. Or maybe just because he finds that height more comfortable for his shooting position. He’s also mounted the riser further back than the scope for some reason. Why? Who knows. Maybe that’s not the scope he normally puts on there or something.

      It’s all just personal preference and personal quirks at the end of the day. The guy is clearly practicing reload drills, not shooting, so maybe this isn’t even a proper setup. Who knows.

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      He’s got that whole setup weirdly close. He’s cramped up to use it like that.

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    I honestly cringe whenever people write a college dissertation in the comments trying to straighten out gun facts. One, people need to learn some brevity. Two, it seems like the topic of guns is probably one of the worst offenders for info dumps. I think it’s because weapons are tied to masculinity, and showing that you know about weapons is a subconscious urge to prove your masculinity to others. Even though knowing gun facts in a vacuum isn’t all that impressive nor does it actually prove that you’re masculine or professional or dangerous or however you’d want to interpret it.

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      Hi, this is NCD. Being weirdos about military hardware is literally what we do.

      I’m not saying you’re wrong per se, but at the same time you somehow saw a huge sign that said “Weird Sex Pervert Convention”, walked inside, looked around and yelled “Oh my God, what are all these weird sex perverts doing here?” Like, the problem here might be you.