She needs to be disbarred
NGL I think if it were a male press secretary then most Republicans would still stand behind them.
At what point does covering up a child sex trafficking conspiracy make you an accomplice in the child sex trafficking conspiracy?
I think Pam is way, way past that.
What makes you think she isn’t in the files we haven’t seen and was already an accomplice?
Seems plausible enough, PAM - Are you hiding that you’re in the files? I’m just asking questions!
Her testimony reminded me of one of my favorite movies.
Resign, be exiled, put in stocks and have tomatoes thrown at her, launched into the ocean via trebuchet, used to test a SpaceX rocket - there’s just so many possibilities!
Every single one of these headlines would be better phrased as, “x does y and yet there will be no consequences and nothing will change”, because that’s the fucking reality.
Example:
Pam Bondi acts like a petulant toddler in front of Congress and yet there will be no consequences and nothing will change
“The media should only feed people hopelessness so that they will accept their lot in life and shut up about it.”
-You
Nah more like if we stop pretending through headlines that something is being done, we can wake up from this coma we seem to be in and actually take any action.
If that’s your goal, you may want to study which communication methods have proven to be effectively inspiring in past political movements. Because I’m pretty sure “there’s no winning” is not among them.
Dude, it’s lemmy alright, I don’t think I’m exactly starting a political movement here.
I guess my point is more that cope-y articles like this one help people be complacent because they think that somehow the Trump fever will break on its own despite a decade of evidence to the contrary.
She might be removed.
Bongino was. Scapegoats have value.
Tokens
Bullshit. The administration is crafting this narrative bc they’re mad she didn’t lie under oath about the existence of the domestic terrorism list.
Resign?
Pam Bondi needs to be prosecuted and arrested. She’s a complicit of all the MAGA and Trump criminal activities.
Seriously what is up with these articles? No one has turned on shit. MAGA is a bought-and-paid-for sunken cost for these people. They’re all-in. They aren’t turning on anyone!
Go ahead and check Raw Story’s “journalistic” history. It’s mostly just hopium/copium slop.
“MAGA melts down after…” “Trump furious because…” “Judge SLAMS MAGA over….”
Meanwhile, not a fucking thing is changing, progressing, being fixed, undone, or halted in any meaningful way.
We’re being sold on action that isn’t happening. It’s an insulting pacifier that ok many people have no problem sucking on every single fucking day- several times a day.
Who owns all the papers? They pretend with fake titles and it eases the rage building in everyone at the ridiculousness of this whole charade. Dudes running the country like it’s his own private business and he’s a vulture capitalist. Occupy everything was also a disarming of a fuse that was running very short at the time and has been allowed to fester into general unrest across the country. They control the narrative in the mainstream, the same people running this whole farce.
Seriously what is up with these articles?
This is our manufactured society now, as we read this bullshit, the right is reading their own versions that show Pam Bondi heroically fighting back against mean, mean Democrats, carefully edited and clipped to make her look like a Valhalla-worthy warrior.
We let too many people into positions of representation without giving a shit who they were or what they represented, and did nothing to interrupt them as they took donations from companies that want to manufacture our entire world so that they can decide what kind of shoppers they want us to be, and who we’re going to be mad at (each other, they want us to hate each other so we don’t hate the oligarchs and donor-class.)
If anyone wants to know why so much money is being poured into AI, it’s because that’s the tech that will let them micro-manufacture manipulation campaigns for every individual, on an individual level.
We are utterly and totally cooked unless people rise up and stop spending money on useless crap and start focusing on their communities and local leadership.
Couldn’t agree more if I tried.
I’d love to see this and that god awful smug smirk be wiped the fuck off her face as she descends to hell as traitors should
There are a few MAGA at least questioning if this is what “great” is.
Not enough to meaningfully dent his base, but it is enough of a start to get Gallup to stop reporting approval numbers.
They don’t want you to take action for yourself. “Don’t worry - someone else will take action. You don’t have to. They’ll deal with it. Don’t think about who. Shhh. No action. Only consume…”
Daily Beast and Raw Story are as bad as any other tabloid. Just liberal focused.
Yep. I’ve always called them the Fox News of the left.
Needs to resign?
Needs to be drawn and quartered, along with every member of this cabinet.
Trump gets buried alive, covered in concrete, and then chisled into an award for himself, that reads SIC SEMPER TYRANIS.
Fuck all of these goddamned traitors.
SIC SEMPER TYRANIS.
Also “Enemy of Mankind”
hostis hominum
I’m not a fan of repeating comments, but my last one seems better here:
Her testimony reminded me of one of my favorite movies.
don’t you EVER accuse me of a crime
Fuck you bitch nobody is above the law (in theory…)
Sometimes the law is wrong.
these fucking morons actually think she’s anything more than a muppet doing exactly what it’s told to do
She’s probably a big part of the Epstein cover up. She was there in Florida in 2011 as attorney general of the state, after Epstein’s first conviction, and while his activities were still ongoing but did nothing about it.
The entire reason she has this job is because she protected epstein’s clients in Florida.
doing exactly what it’s told to do
Her statement about the stock market doing well sounds like it came from the orange felon himself.
Unfair to muppets!!!
Setting the precedent of holding people in power accountable is only a good thing. It’s a good step, just not the last one.
Wow. Being in agreement with Tim Pool, Nick Fuentes, and Kyle Rittenhouse is…uncomfortable.
I love how this image is so universally known (and used lately) that the associated article doesn’t even need to be mentioned.
Well, unless you wanna reach more people and/or be more inclusive. It doesn’t seem to have alt-text, and I also haven’t seen the picture before or know who this is.
It basically doesn’t matter if she resigns or not. Whoever takes her place will be decided by Trump who will just want someone who will cover up the worst of the Epstein files, run cover to ICE misconduct, and never prosecute those who bribe Trump. Whether it’s Bondi or not barely matters.
Nominees for the job require Senate approval, so technically they could try to make Trump put up someone good. Bondi was nominated when it turned out the Senate wasn’t likely to approve Trump’s first pick, Matt Gaetz.
Shit I forgot about that.
Nominees for the job require Senate approval
In theory…
(Those are three different Trump “appointee” “acting US Attorneys” that the Senate never confirmed and who served illegally: Alina Habba, John Sarcone, and Bill Essayli. At this point I assume there are more, and I just can’t keep up.)
I’m still cleaning up the vomit from discovering myself in agreement with MTG, you can’t do this to me.
Fuck, that gives me the ick big time.
Sometimes its just “grass is green, sky is blue, pam bondi is as incompetent as her employer.” It did take them a fucking long time to come to the correct conclusions though and its not clear that they got there by anything but “law girl embarrassing”
Yeah you don’t get credit for re-observing a fact
Jamie Raskin berated Bondi’s earlier Senate performance before the questioning began, saying that she brought… What did he call it? A “burn book” or something?
Basically, instead of preparing for the actual questions she’d be asked, she prepared a book of insults and ad hominem for the people asking the questions.
And I couldn’t help but notice that in her testimony yesterday, every time she flipped through the huge binder next to her, rather than answering the question, she’d just start attacking the person who asked the question.
So, she did the same thing again. A one trick pony who couldn’t imagine that they’d prepare countermeasures for her embarrassing previous performance.
And she was caught lying under oath immediately after she did so.
Only a complete idiot would allow themselves to be put in such a situation.
She should have resigned long ago. She should have done a lot of things, but what can you expect of a complete idiot? If she’s remembered at all in the future, it will be for her unparalleled stupidity.
Not only did she have a stupid “burn book” but she also brought out printed pages showing the search history of Congress members who were allowed to view the secret files, and this was photographed. They monitored, logged, and tagged the searches and documents members of Congress accessed, and she was dumb enough to hold evidence of it in front of press photographers. Now there’s going to be a congressional inquiry into that too.
Along with the printed out search histories were summaries of the items that were viewed.
Remember how, I think just two days ago, it came out that there was an email referencing a 9-year-old Brazilian girl? And the administration’s response was that it was obviously a typo and it was a 19-year-old girl (nevermind that other emails reference 10-, 11-year-olds)?
The “summary” of that email was an exact quote of the line with the 9-year-old girl except edited to say 19. I haven’t seen this mentioned by anybody else, but you can see it in a photo from at least one article that was released earlier today about Bondi having Pramila Jayapal’s search history.
They’re not even honest to themselves.
What good is making her resign going to do? Don’t get me wrong, she should be gone, but Trump put her there and she’s doing what he wants her to do. Forcing Trump to swap one stooge for another doesn’t accomplish anything except resetting the “Trump’s AG did something bad” counter, which might actually be useful to him but doesn’t help us at all. Focus on the guy who put this obviously unqualified person in charge of the DOJ.
I believe there is a limited supply of practicing lawyers who will ruin their own lives and careers to support Trump, a man who will not ever return the favor.
To make a Pam Bondi, you need to find someone who is a completely incompetent moron who can also pass a bar exam.
I think another Bill Barr is more likely. A person who initially thinks it’s a good idea to support Trump, but later defies him.
There is something to be said for the friction in bringing someone new into the role. Nobody is ever as effective in their first few weeks as they are a year into the job.
There’s no way her replacement would be good, but a revolving door makes things more difficult for him.
I suppose that’s true but it does seem like it would be more effective to spend the effort tying her failures directly to Trump rather than letting him offer her up as the sacrificial lamb. People seem to think he’s good at delegation and “business stuff” so hammer him with the mistakes his people make and force voters to remember how highly he once spoke of them.
At this point, who are we trying to convince? Nobody who’s still defending the guy is going to change their mind no matter the logic you use towards them.
I’m fully in support of “throw wrenches in their attempts to do things” instead.
I watched some of the parts and I thought she did amazingly well, in MAGA terms. There is no way she could do it better with all the facts against her.
She doged questions, she did incoherent rants, interrupted people constantly, attacked the interviewers. It was despicable, everything MAGA like. I don’t see why they aren’t thrilled about her. She was trump on steroids.
I don’t see why they aren’t thrilled about her.
Because Trump sold them the Epsteins files during his campaign. He promised to release the files and the list in full transparency. Most of the MAGA base is now invested in the Epstein files and want to see billionaire pedophiles punished. Pam Bondi acted like MAGA usually wants her to act, except this time she was acting against MAGA. She interrupted and attacked the people who asked the questions MAGA wanted answers for and instead of giving any answers she dodged the questions and wasted time on incoherent rants instead of giving the information MAGA wants. She did everything “right” but she did it against the wrong crowd.
I know polling is useless, but I would really appreciate some good data on the “MAGA divide”. All of my family members are still on the Trump Train.
There’s a CNN polling data from the end of last year that shows only 12% of republicans are satisfied with the amount of information released on the Epstein case, 21% are dissatisfied and the majority are don’t care or don’t know. Now those numbers have gone more in the favor of what the administration is doing compared to polling on the same questions 6 months earlier where 4% were satisfied and 40% was dissatisfied. I don’t think I need to find polling data on Trumps popularity, I think it’s pretty obvious that his support among his base is high. So there’s an obvious disconnect between supporting Trump and believing the Epstein files are properly handled.
Overall the sentiment in the republican party is that they’re not satisfied with how much has been released and I think the change in the trend has less to do with MAGA falling in line and more to do with them getting disillusioned by the administration, because what happened between those 6 months was that the first files were released and they were heavily redacted. Of course hardcore MAGA accepted what they saw and were happy to move on but the rest expected to get something and the administration tried to serve them nothing. I feel like that falls perfectly in line with why MAGA turned on Bondi.
EDIT: Forgot to add that this doesn’t mean they’re against Trump, this only means they’re against Bondi. That also explains why your family would still be on the Trump train because in their eyes Trump did nothing wrong.
I don’t think there’s a divide. Anyone who has a doubt will stuff that fucker down rather than face the ridicule of the ingroup and outgroup simultaneously.
I tend to agree.
Theres blood in the water and they’ve thrown her in to try to slake the shark’s appetite.
The whole point of a fall person is to take the fall, and shes doing that well.
I think the thing people need to come to terms with is that while we insist on playing everything by the book, because it’s the right thing to do, they are playing by a completely different book that literally uses our own book against us. We continue playing right into their hands, and we’re eventually going to have to change our playbook very drastically, and it’s not going to be comfortable. We can’t win this by continuing to play by the same book that got us here.
It seems like everyone’s pinning their hopes on the midterms despite the clear evidence already available that not only are they in the process of being manipulated and rigged, and they’ve still got over half a year to be even more egregious about it, but even if they aren’t or if they don’t succeed, there’s a good chance that the other side will make up their own numbers anyway and create a smoke screen of misinformation or simply refuse to follow the rules like they’ve already been doing this whole time. Even if Dems take back the house and the senate, where’s their actual power to do anything about any of this? What actual enforcement mechanism can they actually implement that isn’t procedural and “by the book”, the exact same book that Trump’s administration is ignoring?
“The book” and even “the constitution” is just words on paper, and we’ve entered an era where the sword is once again mightier than the pen. Where’s our swords? If Trump starts doing everything by executive order again, continues stacking the deck in all the militarized federal law enforcement institutions to surround himself in his own personal gestapo and use them to enforce his executive orders, who’s going to actually try anything to stop him? Who’s going to be brave enough to take actual action against his militarized forces to stop him? And it’s not enough to just have one guy or a handful willing to stand up to him. Yeah, maybe that will embolden some more to stand up to him, but you don’t just need to have some guys stand up to him, you need to stand up and win against an army of violent thugs, you need your own army, and it needs to be a well-trained army that can actually beat these fuckers in direct combat. A bunch of angry guys shouting mean things in congress and the senate and courtrooms and hearings aren’t going to stop him, no matter what book they think still matters. The violent thugs on the ground will not stop because of any book unless Trump’s the one writing it. I think this is going to get real, real bad. I desperately hope to be wrong, but I’m not willing to concede that I am.
I can’t disagree with any of that, but I’m reluctant to agree.
Yes, it’s absolutely true that “going high” and “checks and balances” has absolutely failed. Repeatedly.
I also agree that republicans are doing everything they can to stack the midterms. I think the plan is, if the swing against Trump is large enough then it becomes extraordinarily difficult / impossible to obscure. My concern here is that if everything goes to plan and Trump can be somehow removed, and then the Dems win a decisive victory in 2028 (?) and you have a Dem POTUS… nothing will be wound back. They’ll disappear the tariffs and normalise the economy, and set the stage for the a do-over with the next Republican government.
You may well be right about violent revolution, but I feel like there needs to be a very high level of desperation for people to organise against an oppressive regime, and I just don’t think the US is anywhere near that.
Depends who you’re talking about. The US population doesn’t yet seem to be anywhere near that, indeed, which is very unfortunate, because the US government, on the other hand, seems to be on a pretty clear 1938 trajectory. What happens when the government turns into a completely oppressive regime before the people are desperate enough to organize against it? Nazi Germany happens, and World War starts, because the government will be so far ahead of the people that they won’t be able to effectively resist.
If you don’t think the US population is anywhere near that, then I assume you must agree how urgent it is for the US population to get there really fucking quick.
If you don’t think the US government is anywhere near that, then I assume you’re simply in a different information bubble than I am, because, uh… it’s fucking bad out there, dude. I’m constantly checking in with American friends to make sure they haven’t been fucking kidnapped and disappeared, and instead of telling me I’m crazy, they’ve got the same concerns and they’re grateful that someone is looking out for them. I’ve got friends in Minneapolis. I’ve got friends in El Paso. I’ve had to check in with both in the last week. The fucking scary shit isn’t just an imaginary hypothetical, it’s happening in real time.
I agree that the trajectory does seem to be full mask-off nazism.
I also agree that the regime seems to be moving way more quickly than the population generally realises.
I am in a different information bubble, given that I’m an Australian never having visited the US. It’s a train wreck I can’t look away from, sorry.
From the outside Americans do seem to be either very unaware or very apathetic. Every week there are new headlines saying something like “new poll reveals that 52% of Americans worry that the economy may be on the wrong path”, when it should be “100% of Americans are absolutely committed to jailing Trump and charging ICE officers”.
That said, I don’t begrudge any individual American for not taking action. If the same thing were happening here I would attend protests but I wouldn’t endanger myself or my kids. I guess it really depends how close to home things got. If ICE were abducting neighbours that I didn’t know, I might be out on the street with a whistle I guess.
*DOGED questions!
It’s because she’s a woman
She did exactly what trump coached her to do and even sounded like him
ever attentive to the master’s voice
SURE! yes sir, sure boss, SURE! I’ll kneel now.
