I like to think this is the real reason the French have been vilified as cowards and weak in the American Zeitgeist.
So we don’t look at our brothers in arms and join with them.
American Liberalism was the basis of the left, and we kicked it right out of the USA after the civil war, The French however took it and ran.
We need to dump some cow shit in front of the White House and set some tires in fire.
Wasnt the the last French protest and riots about the raising of retirement age? And didnt that happen anyway?
Im really asking, I think Im correct.
They are waiting the elections bro! Mid elections, final elections, 2026 elections and goes on.
As an accomplished wizard, I can definitively state that fireball is the first, best solution to all problems.
Also the second, and depending on your level, third. Depends on available spell slots.
At this point, I can only imagine it’s out of spite. The regime wants violence, and we are certainly capable of it. But denying them the response they are begging for seems to really blue ball them.
We’re going to die probably. But on our terms, not theirs.
Thats one way to cope with the situation I guess.
Mmmmmm that’s good rationalization
yeah, sure
Aren’t they also patiently waiting for Chat Control to pass, or are the French fine with it?
Dictators use instigators to escalate the situation and remove personal freedoms. People are being smart and not falling for instigators, all history books shows how they use infiltrataded people to cause the authoritarian regime to attack protester. So I think people are being smart and they afraid from midterms and trying everything to see if they can have a provocateur before the midterms.
Yeah, because ICE is sure showing respect for laws and norms, don’t want to risk that by defending yourself!
In France, the worst they will likely be met with is water cannons, tear gas, and potentially rubber bullets/beanbag rounds.
In America, it’s more likely to be automatic assault rifles.
… AND THE HOOOME OF THE BRAAAAAVE
Ba dum tis!
French cops also shoot people who just drive away.
Sure and that gets a wikipedia page for you to cite. You’re not wrong, just heavily downplaying the problem with this whataboutism. It’s not about France where this thing is an exception, but about the US where this is becoming the norm.
automatic assault rifles
This is redundant, by definition all assault rifles have auto or burst fire modes. Anyone (including lawmakers) in the US who claims otherwise is incorrect.
Burst fire is not available on civilian models out of the box in the US
Yeah that’s not true. Semiautomatic assault rifles are very common in the US, more available by far than full auto.
Assault rifles have select fire, by definition.
I’m not American. I’m only aware of them in passing. It’s not the sort of thing we learn about in school, over here.
I learned about this stuff from video games. The MA5B is full auto.
You may be right, I don’t know shit about guns, but relying on information from a video game is not the smartest. The person deciding on what mechanics the different guns have, may not know anything about the topic.
What about burst fire?
You say that like you can’t get your own automatic assault rifles in America.
You can’t. I feel like you don’t know what an automatic rifle or an assault rifle is.
Modifying them is trivially easy, so any can be full auto, but burst fire is superior anyway. Full auto is only for psychological coolness.
You can, they just cost like $10k-$50k (if you want one legally).
Otherwise, crime gonna crime.
Lol yeah that’s true. I’m just assuming they didn’t mean that only eccentric rich people can get automatic assault rifles, whatever that contradiction in terms means.
I definitely am not talking only about eccentric rich people, you are correct.
Not as easily as modifying a semi automatic.
French cops: using less lethals according to the manual.
'Merica cops: point blank, headshots (unless you’re preggers), gas the kids
If you think french cops follow the manual I have a bridge to sell you
checks the Internet search engine
American police are significantly more lethal, with fatal shooting rates in 2019 being 22 times higher (3.1 per million) than in France (0.14 per million).
… … I dunno, that feels like a pretty significant difference
That still doesn’t mean french cops are not also dangerous during protests. I’m not trying to say they’re more dangerous than your brown shirts, I’m saying that protesting also isn’t risk free in France, and claiming that french cops follow the rules is simply incorrect.
Protests are famously attractive for the kind of person who enjoys hurting others, on both sides. Difference is that only one side can hurt others while being protected by the system.
They’re all full of stories and excuses because none of them can figure out how to do anything beyond going out for a walk every couple months.
It occurs to me, pregnant women who want abortions in states where it is illegal should just go to a protest…
I get what you’re saying, but if you ask me, being murdered by a fascist is a rather drastic method of abortion…
I don’t understand this either. A few protests that aren’t even in the news after a single day!?
You want to bet, it won’t be any different if trump says there was too much fraud and cancels the midterm results? A week of protests and outrage, but by then he will already do something else outraging to talk about. Americans are neutered.
There’s always the excuse that they can’t take one single day off from work because they’d lose healthcare coverage yada yada. I used to think it was bullshit, that they’re just lazy.
But… remember during covid, when a ton of people became unemployed? Suddenly they were protesting all over the place. Made me reconsider. I think the lack of social security really has them by the balls.
I read many -if not most- live paycheck to paycheck. If so, the problem might go way deeper than that.
By the “official” numbers, at least 1 out of 3 Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
At least
IIRC it’s 1 in 3 households are living paycheck to paycheck.
And if one member of that household loses their job, that means the entire household is fucked, at least probably.
Yup, the two income trap
Yeah, and are you going to tell me that the households on the bottom end of the income spectrum don’t have on average more people than the rich fucks?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yes, I agree. The system neutered them, I’m sure otherwise they are normal people. But the education they have. The price they gave to pay for it, theb guarded two party system where officias are bought by the rich, the bought media, the lack of healthcare and it’s price, …
This has produced the perfect cattle. The American aristocracy have made the perfect system, where everyone thinks they are free and are too uneducated, busy and sick to think about how much they are exploited.
Also a fully militarized police force in all 50 states some which rival the power of nations
The NYPD has over 30,000 cops, some 10k+ support staff and similar firepower to the active militaries of some European countries, and that’s just 1 city. Also the us military sells surplus and “necessary” equipment directly to police departments
There are also 50 separate states and each of those states has a rural/urban divide covering over nearly 3000 miles across of diverse geography without including Alaska or any of the islands.
Honestly the police are the real problem. They’re never part of the local community in any real sense, they’ve been too brainwashed into an us vs them mentality.
Which means that every single American is effectively living in ‘occupied’ territory and they can’t even depend on their communities banding together to fend off attacks. They’ll simply be stabbed in the back by their own cop neighbors.
In a sane country, local police would’ve majorly curbed ICE’s activities simply because they were foreign agents messing around in ‘their’ city. Instead we’ve seen time and time again that when it matters, police will always side with our oppressors regardless of the legality or morality of it.
Which is why it seems so hopeless to many of us. How can we fight an entire government, military AND every single cop all at once?
Yeah and that’s without even dealing with the national guard or actual Feds if serious uncontrolled riots break out
America is one of the most locked down countries on earth with widespread state sanctioned violence
When the EU is 50 countries big with half like Hungary and each gets an actively violent and murderous police army they can start lecturing Americans about violent protests
Yeah, many people do not realize what we are up against. There is a GIANT imbalance of violent power. Any violent resistance would be lone wolves, or small groups that may not be able to coordinate. Most people who give a fuck about everyone’s future will be shot, blown up, or jailed. Everyone else will feel bad, yet go along to get along. They will value their family’s comfort above everyone else’s. They probably won’t consider past grandchildren. They will consider their time overlapping their children’s and grandchildren’s lives, but no further. Their foresight is short, and selfish.
I mean, yes obviously it does. I don’t begrudge anyone for being unable to comprehend life without all the basic safety nets civilized countries offer, but we can already barely afford food and rent. Oh got some weird medical thing that’s concerning? Well I hope it’s not cancer, buy a bunch of Tylenol and just hope it goes away. Doctor too expensive.
Yup, and considering everything that’s coming to light right now, it’s hard to say that it isn’t by design.
This is by design.
It really does fuck us.
A few protests that aren’t even in the news
Depending on how much you rely on main stream (especially legacy) news, you’re highly unlikely to see one protester on the news for every ten thousand on the street.
Turns out that the billionaires and hectomillionaires that own all of the biggest media outlets don’t like to draw attention to people criticizing their golf buddies when they don’t have to.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t do more, but there are plenty of ongoing protests. Just because you don’t see them in the news everyday didn’t mean they aren’t happening. Minneapolis, Portland, LA, DC and more all have protests that have been more or less ongoing since the shit hit the fan in their respective areas. The difference between this country and Franve can’t be understated im terms of geographic size and population density. It is MUCH harder to sustain protests when we’re all so spread out compared to am entire country the size of Texas.
It’s not about that. Your protests are meaningless. They don’t do anything. They are just pointless parades. The officials don’t need to care about them.
Entrée Madame la Guillotine
Blatantly copied it…
Goddamn IKEA. Have they seen oligarch necks?! This thing has maybe 5-10 good chops in it.
But then again, could make for a lovely spectacle - hear me out.
10 of these delivered by pallet, efficiently flat-packed, to the stage. The oligarchs, milling about in their corral, cast their eyes up at the sudden disturbance, lick their lips at the raw, delicious shareholder value on naked display.
The Executive Executors, unhooded, unhurried, and unafraid - begin to unbox, and then to build. The livestream is immaculate.
10 of these
Do you not know ikea? They are a company that does mass production. They do not put out a product so they can sell 10. They will chop whole forests and mine entire mountains so they can provide the global population with their products. They understand supply and demand. They will make loads more than just 10
Blatantly copied it
Now me too
The very call of the guy’s ancestors saying that Trump deserves medieval French-style royal treatment. I understand him.
They should’ve written the 2nd amendment in French lol
Because nothing’s broken. This is how it’s supposed to work.
Yeah because France is fine
Been there a few times, and It’s not perfect at all.
Still I’d pay to visit france while you can’t pay me to go to the usa.
France burned stuff because the president wanted to increase the age for retirement. Multiple times.
Who’s the exceptionalist country now?
They protested endlessly, and got… Nothing. Peanuts.
Macron has the government that used the most by very, very far the 49.3 article which is basically a pass to ignore the democratic process. He said quite clearly that democracy has no power against him and it is proven true.
The fascism in France is just less… frontal, than in the US, but it is there and those little protests, as long as they last, won’t change anything.
This is a feature of the 5th Republic, and to be honest when you look at French politics from the outside I dont blame de Gaulle for creating it this way, your parliamentarians cannot compromise for shit.
I like how everyone has been assuming that I’m from the US
De Gaulle was basically a half-assed dictator by the way, who kept on taking advantage of the situation to try to get fame/power. The only, one good thing he did was fight against the parasites that the US and UK were, who wanted to just invade France and share it between themselves as spoils of war.
The two main causes for the failure of democracy in France in history are Napoleon and De Gaulle, and the fact that they are seen as heroes by french people (unsurprisingly, especially the right/far-right) definitely participated in the downfall of any democratic process in France.
The failure of the US system is in no way lessening the failure of the French democracy, but for some reason people can’t seem to accept that and try to either defend one or the other. Yeah, France isn’t actively mass torturing minorities. Yet. Give it, I don’t know, 5-10 years? Right now is when people should be in the street burning everything down and putting Macaron and his government of Nazis under a guillotine, but instead they are busy worrying about Palestine supporters and minor immigrants (a big source of terrorism as everyone knows /s).
I was assuming you were from France 🙂
But that doesn’t mean they actually raised taxes or did anything to solve the budget shortfall that the retirement change was for. That’s just kicking the can down the road.
let’s see: macron didn’t send terrorists to kill french people on open street ✅ damn, french people seem to be so good at reminding their leaders how they check power that their leaders don’t try that shit… maybe american people need to chop some heads with the ol headchopper
They are one or two elections away from an RN president. RN already is the largest party in the assemblée nationale and the “centrists” don’t want to work with the NFP so there exists no clear majority anymore.
The police kill people in France too. For example, El Hacen Diarra died in a police station a few days ago.
disclaimer: this comment is wrong because i misread a table. it’s 33,5 kills per 10mio in the usa and 5 kills per 10mio in france
true, but not a good comparison, because i wasn’t talking about the police but ICE. if i was talking about the police however we we still talking about 1000 out of every million inhabitants in the usa killed by the police; in france, 37. yes: france has a problem with police brutality - but what does that say about the usa?
These numbers are easily found and already bad enough, why make absurd ones up instead?OP misreadThere were 1200 police-involved deaths in the US last year, not 350,000. A huge number, 6x more than France would have had were the populations equivalent, but not anything like the population of an entire large city being gunned down yearly.
you are right, because i misread it and took the wrong column in a table. this was yearly not per million - it’s 33,5 per 10mio. in the usa against 5 per 10mio. in france.
thanks for pointing it out. i edited the comment
Ah, that would explain it!
We don’t chop heads, we poke holes.
france used to
We haven’t been, and that’s the problem
Credit where credit is due. Two homies supposedly tried, before the election.
I say supposedly because some people, including my wife…
Plenty of things got set on fire during the George Floyd riots. Not sure what that fixed though.
Errr… Macaron is making sure that the nazis win and no one gives a shit
yes, we have the same problem in germany. yet we are talking about a completely different magnitude. trumps people literally are the fascists.
Yes, it’s one step away from it. And that’s when reaction is needed, not after the nazis start executing people, but yet no one cares
Yeah, EU countries really, REALLY, need to check themselves. Our human frailties are their frailties too. Their shit hole populace is rising. We are evidently go to start funding the parties that will be their demise.
So far, the response to what has been happening has not met the reality of the situation. If I was to bet at this moment, then I would bet that a large part of the EU is going to fall to fascism.
indeed
